I don't really have a suggestion being very new to this as well, but I have to say, you must be important and special to get invited to all these dinners.
Left in the Cold
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What one thing would you say...
by problemaddict inwhile i am still kind of new on my journey here, and may have a mixed bag of similarties and differences with all of you, i am in fact fading away from the religion of my youth.
in doing so, i have mostly been left alone.
meaning, my friends and family generally know i am "having a hard time" with a few things.
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It's Official! The Governing Body IS the Faithful and Discreet Slave (Annual Meeting Report - jw.org)
by 00DAD init's official!
from the jw.org website:.
november 9, 2012. annual meeting report .
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Left in the Cold
As a very minor side note, once again women are not important enough to be involved. Only 'brothers'. I don't like that.
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If God, being perfect, uses only the WT organization to convey what we need to be taught, there should be no errors. As far as 'the light getting brighter", why would a God of love allow his people to stumble around in darkness in the first place? I don't want to worship a God who doesn't care if his teachings today are accurate or not, and makes absoluty NO haste to correct the teachings we now know to be false until after the fact. I'd really like to think that God, being perfect, would not make errors that need corrected in the fist place. And don't start about the 'human' factor adding errors to his organization because they're not perfect. That's simply not acceptable from a divine, all knowing, all powerful God who wants to teach us something today. It's just not. Sorry.
ethos, these are just my personal feelings. And I'm new at this and not trying to argue. Please don't waste your time or mine with scriptural rebuttal. I know them all. I've had 35 years to learn them. At this point, after so, so many errors in teaching, I'm choosing to use some common sense. You could try, too.
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atrapado's story parte dos
by atrapado inwe met after the meeting which i found strange i figured if i was to be named it would be before the meeting.
they read me the letter from the wt.
it basically said that they were happy about my recommendation but they couldnt accept the recommendation of a 16 year old that i should wait until i was at least 17. of course i was not 16. the problem is that in spanish you write the day first the month after.
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About education, the book I'm reading right now about cultish behaviors stated that when you limit someone's vocabulary, you limit their cognitive skills. That reminded me of the WT suggesting JWs use the simplified versions of the WAtchtower. I'm glad you got an education! I'm hoping to do the same now.
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by carla inlondo111 mentioned this in an earlier post.
"i was taught never to pray aloud about private things--because then satan and the demons, who can't read minds, would be listening in.
if i mentioned aloud some weakness i was struggling with, then they would hear of it, and exploit it.
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I no longer pray. But when I was a good JW, I took as much comfort from prayer as anyone in any other religion, I feel. And I would most certainly have prayed for Sandy victims. Even ones that were non JWs. But maybe I didn't pray correctly.
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atrapado's story parte dos
by atrapado inwe met after the meeting which i found strange i figured if i was to be named it would be before the meeting.
they read me the letter from the wt.
it basically said that they were happy about my recommendation but they couldnt accept the recommendation of a 16 year old that i should wait until i was at least 17. of course i was not 16. the problem is that in spanish you write the day first the month after.
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Your story is a very sad one. As a female, I was never important enough to be an elder's friend. I've never even spoken to a CO before. 35 years in. So your story is very eye opening for me. thank you. I'm so glad you are happy now.
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Would YOU Have Died For The Witness Religion?
by minimus inwould you have not taken a blood transfusion or a transplant because the gb said it was bad?.
would you have imitated the jws in concentration camps and died for your beliefs?.
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No. I guess I'm selfish. I would never had died for the 'Truth'.
Once, my sister (a JW then) had to have emergency surgery from a miscarriage. Her JW husband would not shut up about her not taking blood. I went into the lobby, pulled the nurse aside, and told her to get him out of there and then she would consent. The ask him to leave and she consented, if necessary. Thankfully, it was not.
I felt, even then that to die because you would not take blood was absurd. I mean no disrespect to anyone who has or almost died or anything. I'm not judging anyone else's decisions.
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Do you regret confessing your sins to the elders?
by asilentone inyes, i do!
i did it 20 years ago, but the elders still remember what i did, sometimes i wish they never knew about it.
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I do regret it because everything I ever did wrong was fornication or adultery. Not sure what that says about me, but I feel very strongly that many elders in my 4 different JC meetings (over the years) likely enjoyed some of what they heard. Some were even close in age to me and I knew their wives and felt confident the elders I spoke with were probably not satisfied in the bedroom. And I was pretty open. They never stopped me. My ex husband at his JC meeting (when he and I first got together, I was married) was asked how often he and I 'did it'. He told them. The COBE said, "Where do you get the time?" Lol. I once hurt a friend of mine very much because I honestly felt I was helping him spiritually by ratting on him. He forgave me later. Thank god.
Today, no, I would not tell them a thing. It reminds me of how German citizens were telling on their neighbors and friends and anyone they thought was doing something against the country during Hitler's rule. Idk why. But that's what I always think of.
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Greetings! From an Existent JW!
by Ethos ini'd like extend a greeting to all members of jwn.
i've been a lurking by-stander of this forum for approximately 6 months.
i think this forum's best moments can be attributed to the involvement of actual jw's in doctrinaire discussions and to heated (though not always dialectic) debates.
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Hi Ethos. I had to look up in my dictionary what your name means. So I've already been educated because of you! I just bought "Combatting Cult Mind Control" this morning off Kobo's site. I had to download their app to read it, but I'm pretty new here and I've read that this book is very good. I'm still a little confused about 'cults' so I'm starting with this one. Btw, it's only $6.95. And being a digital version you can hide it much easier. I live alone but don't like stacks and stacks of books. And Believe me If someone were to 'break into' my iPad, my book collection would be the last thing on their mind. Lol! Anyway...welcome.
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Quick question, did you feel lonely at the meetings even though you were part of the action?
by Theocratic Sedition injust curious, something i've noticed only lately.
i'm in the mix within the congregation, stay late after the meeting is over, converse with quite a few people afterwards, make plans for saturday and sometimes sunday service and yet i feel so awfully alone walking to my car afterwards.
i feel lonely when i'm talking and laughing with people after the meeting.
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Lonely to the bone. But, of course, I'm df'd. Which is the point, I guess. I do have difficulty at the meetings. 'Faking it.' I find myself shaking my head no or uttering under my breath. I'm hoping maybe the elders will think I'm crazy and not seditious. I have a fantasy. I'm at the meeting and I just stand up in the middle of it and scream as loud as I can. Hasn't happened yet.